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Speaker 1 - 5:27:21 PM
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Speaker 1 - 5:31:19 PM
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Speaker 2 - 5:31:27 PM
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Speaker 1 - 5:31:27 PM
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Speaker 2 - 5:32:14 PM
We've got
Speaker 1 - 5:32:14 PM
A couple more people that have jumped on the line. So we'll go ahead and get started with our presentation. Welcome again to everyone who joined us. Since we got started to the 4,500 South and Atwood Boulevard online public hearing tonight, we're going to share information about the proposed construction of new traffic signals at the 4,500 South and Atwood Boulevard intersection. And Marie, we invite all of you as members of the public and attendees tonight to submit formal comments on the proposed project improvements and on the corresponding draft environmental study, which can be found under the supporting materials tab on your screen. While this online hearing is a little bit different than it normally would be. If we were able to gather in person, we still have various ways that you can engage with our team and provide formal comments and feedback this evening. And again, over the next 10 days during the official comment period, if you do have any questions during tonight's presentation, again, please type them into the chat box. Our team is on the line and prepared to answer questions verbally or via chat as appropriate. And we'll be tracking those items closely as we go next, you can provide formal comments during tonight's meeting through voicemail, which I'll explain in a little bit more detail here shortly, or you can mail or email your formal comments into our project team. This information is also saved on the webpage that you're on under how to provide a call.
Speaker 2 - 5:33:33 PM
Speaker 1 - 5:33:37 PM
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Speaker 1 - 5:34:28 PM
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Speaker 2 - 5:35:13 PM
Speaker 1 - 5:35:15 PM
We will be answering questions as we go, like I mentioned. So please be sure to send those in through the chat feature. Again, this meeting will be recorded and available on the YouTube account for the tax department of transportation and on the public hearing page that you're on. Now,
Speaker 1 - 5:35:33 PM
Next, I want to introduce our presenters that we'll be hearing from tonight about this project. First, we'll hear from you that project manager, Aaron Wall, Erin will then be followed by Marcus Bennett, the project design engineer. And my name is Katie Kariana. And I'm responsible for communicating with the public throughout the project. In addition to these folks, we have other team members on the line ready and available to answer questions as those come in, those team members do include Brody. Sneden Kimberly O'Reilly and Eric lion with you guys right away, acquisition team, Tyler Allen, you got region two environmental manager, and we also have Chris with Lac with us representing Murray city's engineering department or any city is a really important stakeholder for this project is, was Boulevard is a city
Speaker 2 - 5:36:16 PM
Road. So we're really glad to have him join us tonight with that, Erin, I'm going to turn it over to you to give us some background on the purpose and the need behind this proposed project.
Speaker 3 - 5:36:35 PM
Sorry for the delay there. Yeah. Th the main purpose and need for this project is it's one word it's safety. 4,500 South carries a lot of traffic, it's it? It has a high 85th percentile speed and that associated with the traffic and all the accesses along 4,500 South, I just create a lot of a host of safety issues. You dot has been working on this for many years to try to identify some things they can do. The traffic signal study was completed in 2020. It did warrant a signal, and it's it's you dots feeling that the signal will help improve safety. It will also give a place for pedestrians to cross. Right now, there's quite a span of a road where it's very difficult for anybody to cross. In fact, we've had some serious injury crashes, and I think some fatalities with people trying to cross 4,500 South through this stretch of road, the signal will help address that. And so that's the main purpose of this, of this project is to increase safety. This is not a capacity project. This is a safety project, help improve safety along the corridor.
Speaker 2 - 5:37:57 PM
Speaker 3 - 5:37:57 PM
I think what I'd like to do now is turn the time over to PR or to Marcus. Thanks Aaron. So as you see here in this figure, we will be adding signalization to each leg of the intersection. So each direction of travel that you can approach the intersection on, you will see a traffic light that will control the movement. When we make these kinds of improvements, it often requires us to realign the sidewalks and pet ramps and the immediate vicinity of the intersection. So we will be doing that. And we will also be installing those crosswalks at this intersection. So pedestrians can cross at this location, it'll facilitate North, South and East West crossing. So fully signalized for pedestrians, as well as vehicles on the North side of the intersection. This was a bit of a challenge for us coming into this intersection because there are two different driveways at that location. And we, we can't have two separate driveways to be controlled by different signals. We need to have one signal to control one movement on the North side. And so we are moving forward with combining those driveways into a single access. So it will
Speaker 4 - 5:39:14 PM
Be one leg of the intersection. Yeah, they're on, on the North side. Also on the South side, we will be flatting flattening the radius of the corners going onto and off of Atwood Boulevard. This is to facilitate speed change between 4,500 South and Atwood Boulevard. I believe Erin has our next slide here.
Speaker 3 - 5:39:40 PM
There are property impacts associated with that. All four corners of the intersection will be impacted. We won't be taking there will, there would be no full takes or just partial impacts to those four property owners on each, each of the corner. Those will be the only impacts the Atwood impact on, on Atwood Boulevard is we'll end right there at the end of that first property owner. And that those, and then the other side of, of Atwood on the Southwest corner will be that one property owner there. So in total, we have four impacts. We've met with all four property owners. They're aware of the project and we're working with them to try to minimize the impacts as we, as we lay this out and design it
Speaker 4 - 5:40:33 PM
As far as schedule goes. So you see here on the first line right now, as the public hearing, we've come to the public at this time at a point when we have a pretty good idea of what we're moving forward with yet before we've moved forward with acquiring property, that was a good time where we knew what we were doing and, and wanted to make sure we got this input before we move forward with property acquisitions. So that that's now and public comment period, as Katie said, we'll extend through the 14th. So for the next 10 days where we can receive that comment after this public hearing process completes, it allows us to move forward with a right away acquisition. And that right away acquisition is largely going to control the timeframe of the project we expect that will be wrapped up by winter w we will have access to all of the property, and then we will be moving forward with utility relocations. Now, if we do get some of that property cleared earlier, which would be great, we might see some of those utility relocations happen a little bit earlier, but in general, we expect most of the utility relocations that don't occur concurrent with construction to be through the fall and winter, and then construction. We plan to see in the spring, in the spring. And then the summer Utah has another project on 4,500 South. And we're working on collaborating with that one to make sure that our contractors work well together.
Speaker 1 - 5:42:12 PM
Great. Thank you so much, Aaron and Marcus, for that information, I'm hoping before we jump into kind of this public comment period, is to listen to live comments. So we could address some questions that are coming through in our chat box. We've got a handful of questions here that I want to start off with. You might go with one of them, actually that asks how far South does that turn lane on Atwood go with our new project. I think that you did mention that as you were going through this and I can pull back to it, but I want to share a different drawing here that actually shows the entirety of the project and the limits of that. So, like Erin mentioned, we're just going with the project slightly past that first property here in markets. Can you talk a little bit more about what these designs mean, laid over the map?
Speaker 4 - 5:43:03 PM
Yeah. So what will be happening is the existing through lane. It will be, we're going to taper the lane over to become a through in a right turn lane. And so we can have a separate left turn storage pocket. And the reason why it was important for us to get this left turn lane in here is because it allows us to have much more efficient signal operations. Th the signal engineers don't, don't like it when we combine those lanes at the intersection, because they aren't able to manage the flow on 4,500 South as well. And so that's what, what, why we have that separate left turn lane there, and it's about 70 feet long, and it's about another a hundred feet after that in which the taper occurs over.
Speaker 1 - 5:43:52 PM
Perfect. Thank you for that market. Couple of other questions are coming in. Let's see. I think we really need to spend some time on, or for our residents there on the outward Boulevard section of this project. Really, the question is, what is this going to do to traffic on Atwood Boulevard? Have we looked at any traffic information to help us identify what will happen to traffic on out? What is the result of this signal? I I'm wondering if we can hear first from markets on whether or not we have any study information about that. And then maybe from Chris at Marine city to jump in on that. I think there's a couple people, it sounds like you've spoken to the city already about the need for safety and here. So in general, supportive of this happening, but want to know a little bit more about the implications, if any, on the residential street here on that one.
Speaker 4 - 5:44:43 PM
Yeah. Katie. So as part of the typical signal warrant process, they do counts at this intersection, which does include counting how many vehicles would be turning onto Atwood. And so we do have those numbers and we, as part of that warrant process, there are several different criteria that need to be met. And that's, that was the focus of the signal warrant study. There also been other studies that have focused on the speeds on 4,500 South and on the pedestrian volumes and facilities on 4,500 South, as part of the typical signal warrant prize process, we, we wouldn't generally analyze what we would call network impacts, and we, we wouldn't be expecting to create any capacity problems anywhere else as a result of this improvement, which is why it wouldn't be part of the typical process to, to analyze network impacts from the city perspective.
Speaker 5 - 5:45:55 PM
Yeah, I'd be happy to. So in general, this is I'm participating on behalf of the city, coordinating with them as part of the engineering department. Obviously Maria city engineering oversees access to the roads and we partner with eat on many things, primarily from the city's perspective, from my perspective, this is a safety project. It's an intersection project. The city has no intention to extend anything from this intersection further South on Atwood in the near future. We are currently in the process of developing a transportation plan and anyone who's listening and interested, you can access [email protected] and we have open comments currently going right now for any comments about further South on Atwood. But again, this is limited in scope to the intersection and making safety improvements that we, as part of many regional studies have found that if we need some pedestrian improvement here as well, because the only pedestrian crossings are state street and fifth East, and this is a valuable mid-block crossing, you know, Kristen,
Speaker 4 - 5:47:17 PM
As part of those studies that have occurred. So yeah, they, they really have focused on that safety element you talked about, and the, as far as pedestrian crashes go, there have been eight pedestrian crashes that have involved pedestrians at this location. And four of those have become severe, including as, as Aaron mentioned earlier, there was a fatality at this location previously. And so that it it's that data that has caused you not to come back to this intersection time and time again, to analyze it, to see if there's improvements that could occur there outside of pedestrian crashes. There there's also a vehicular crash problem. And they've found that there are 32 crashes here that could be corrected.
Speaker 3 - 5:48:08 PM
That's one of the results of the studies is that 32 of the crashes over the last 10 years could have been corrected by a signal. And, and so that's where the studies have focused to date.
Speaker 1 - 5:48:24 PM
Great. Thank you so much. We have another question that came in. What is the other projects on 4,500 South that you mentioned? I know that that was one that we spoke about actually just earlier today from the department standpoint, Erin, is that one that you could speak to market on that project? Future projects?
Speaker 3 - 5:48:42 PM
Yeah. It's, it's my understanding. It's a resurface. If I understand that Marcus is an open grade surface course. Yeah. A one-inch OGC. Yeah. Okay. So what that is is that's resurfacing the road to preserve it for, to expand, extend its lifespan. And that will be on 4,500 South. So it's not capacity related. It's not necessarily even safety related. It's more of a maintenance thing that that does with its roads over, over the lifespan of a, a road. And so it is a bigger project as far as money goes, because it goes further up and down 4,500 South. We need, we want that surface through the intersection as well. And so we're working to make sure that, that we get our project done in time. So when they come to resurface it, they can resurface our project as well. And it'll just work better that way. So that was the other project that, that Marcus had mentioned.
Speaker 1 - 5:49:46 PM
I did want to jump back to one of our first questions that came into the chat box. There was a question about our notification process and whether or not we notify to everyone about the meeting. I can take that question on and say that, you know, we do the best that we can do within our means to try to reach as many people as possible in this instance, really focusing heavily on the properties, closest to the intersection that we're improving heritage to try to really kind of target those most directly affected by this, in addition to some broader means of communication through a notice that we're required to play in the salt Lake Tribune, as well as some communications that went out in Marine city channels. And we got existing channels and websites as well, completely understand that sometimes people do get missed with some of those things.
Speaker 1 - 5:50:36 PM
We did everything and just try to avoid that. But those are the things that we did to get notification out about this meeting in particular. So just wanted to highlight that a little bit. He's direct the question to that came in via email. Similarly, just wanting to be sure that they were apprised to say again, it sounds like you've had some property owners and residents who have been asking and hoping for some safety improvements in this area and want to be sure that they looked into the, the plans and the projects. And then there's the time for short to provide your input and your feedback as we're going through this environmental processes is exactly what this meeting and what our public comment period or board. So please, if you have anything else to add or to ask, continue to use this chat box or leave a voicemail comment back as well.
Speaker 1 - 5:51:27 PM
It sounds like we had potentially some problem with the voicemail comment, but it's fixed now. So great again, up on the screen here is the instructions to provide a formal verbal comment. Tonight, we played back into the meeting for everybody takers for anybody who may not be able to see my screen. You can do that by dialing (855) 925-2801 and entering code five, four one nine, when prompted, then press two. To record your message. You can record for up to three minutes. We ask that you please state your name very clearly and spell it if you wouldn't mind so that we can get it to record. As we left the comment checking now for a couple of other questions, have a few questions that have come in, just let me pull this up so we can make sure we're getting all of them.
Speaker 1 - 5:52:32 PM
I want to go back one really quickly. And I know we talked about this and kind of the overview and the property impacts that go along with this proposed project. And wondering if we could click on that one more time. We did have a question come in about someone concerns that they may have put improvements into their property before this project is coming. So just wanted to reiterate that this, this single parcel here on this corner, as well as this one here on the East side of outward, we'll have property acquisitions in temporary construction easement that does not go for their past into any additional properties past the corner. That's the same for this North side of the road, as well as this at this time. Anyone I think, as we mentioned, that will have any kind of property impact has been contacted as part of the process. We have another question, will there be left-hand turn signals? Will they be regular lights or lights that are traffic triggers markets? Is that one that you can help us with repeating the question? Will there be left-hand turn signals? Will they be regular lights or lights that are traffic figures?
Speaker 4 - 5:53:49 PM
So northbound and southbound, there will be not, there will not be the left turn arrows. They would just be the green balls. And we just presented to the region, traffic signal, the design. And I'm just going to double check before I answer this, what we included for northbound southbound or sorry for eastbound and westbound. Yeah. So for eastbound or westbound, we've presented to you dot traffic engineers to include left a flashing yellow arrows. And, and that's what we're planning to move forward with right now.
Speaker 1 - 5:54:28 PM
Speaker 4 - 5:54:29 PM
So that's, that's when you have the four, the foreheads and the, and you have that flashing yellow sometimes, and then you get a green arrow, sometimes
Speaker 1 - 5:54:43 PM
Inky market question that we've had a couple of times as leave you raising or adding raised islands as part of this project on 4,500 South or anywhere for that matter. You address that one.
Speaker 4 - 5:55:00 PM
Yes, we are not adding raised islands. I started with yes. As an I can answer the question. No, we are not adding any raised islands with this project. You dot had a project several years ago to do that. And it was not successful based on community input. And for that reason, we have not included that with this project.
Speaker 1 - 5:55:23 PM
Great. Thank you, Mark. A couple of other, just kind of design related questions that we have here. There's currently a powerful on this North side right here in the middle where this new design leaves and a UTA bus dock to the other side of it. What are the plans for those two elements as this project comes in and kind of change things up here.
Speaker 4 - 5:55:51 PM
So for that power pole that will be underground. Marine power will be running the service to the two property owners that have power on it underground at that location. So it will, there will no longer be a power pole there that's a major element of this project, and there's been a lot of work thus far to ensure that that's possible to happen by several groups here. And as far as the UTA stopped, that was actually considered for relocation. When there wasn't a path to get a signal or a pedestrian crossing at this location. But right now there isn't, now that there will be a pedestrian crossing here, there are presently plans to relocate that, but we still do need to work with UTA to make sure that we're on the same page with them and figure out what their intent is for that.
Speaker 1 - 5:56:46 PM
Great. Thank you, Marcus. We have another question. That's come in. If you only have flashing yellow, what is the improvement over the existing condition market?
Speaker 4 - 5:56:59 PM
So what's really great flashing yellows is that it allows when there's this really cool trick that they do that the traffic engineers have been doing lately. When they see that there are safety issues at particular times of the day, they only run what we call protected phases. So it perhaps, I mean, what I would expect between four 30 and six o'clock vehicles who are making a left turn may end up becoming more aggressive as they're trying to spot for gaps. If there is that flashing yellow running. And so the signal engineers won't time it to have that flashing yellow arrow, they'll only have it so that it's either red, a red arrow or a steady yellow arrow or a green arrow. And what that will do is it will remove vehicles who are making left turn having to watch for gaps. And so we don't get as many left turn crashes when in that traffic study that identified the crashes that are correctable by a signal, those are usually the ones that are most correctable, th those left turn crashes and a key way in which to do that is to only run the protected phases in times when, when that's appropriate, of course, at the middle of the night, when, when there aren't a lot of conflicts and it is very easy to make that movement, they can run that, that flashing yellow and, and the, the traffic engineers that will be timing it, they can make adjustments on the fly as needed.
Speaker 4 - 5:58:47 PM
So we just give them options by providing that flashing yellow.
Speaker 1 - 5:58:53 PM
You have a question that came in specifically for Chris at Murray city. Chris, this question is, is anyone looking out for the residents of outlets? I think that is a good one for you to address from the city's perspective, weigh in on that as well. But please go ahead on that one.
Speaker 5 - 5:59:10 PM
Yes. Well, so I, I can only kinda answer within my capacity within the engineering department. I, I can say first and foremost, I want to thank you, Katie, Erin, Marcus, and everyone else on this call for allowing and really reaching out to the residents for comments. This project is what I'd like to call Marie adjacent. It is, you know, 45th South is you dot road. The intersections become owned by UDA. We are not anticipating any capacity improvements. As far as this intersection comes along. This is merely in our opinion, in my particularly, it's here to improve safety. Our, our role as the city is quite limited in, we are doing utility relocations and providing input to protect what city right away will be affected by this, whether it be easements or, or for, for a utilities. So that's our general concerns. Again, I don't feel that this is going to drastically impact that would we have no improvements to add capacity. And the city currently has no plans to make any changes further South than the single parcel that they're showing here.
Speaker 1 - 6:00:46 PM
Chris, appreciate that. I think we're caught up on the questions that have come in so far. It sounds like we do have at least one verbal comment that has been submitted. I'm going to go ahead and go to this page. I encourage anybody else. Who's on the line to go ahead and call in to get into the verbal comments queue. We've got one in the queue right now. We will go through some additional questions and answers after this that we've got ready, but we'll play the first one and see if we have any more, come in, go ahead and play that one, Molly.
Speaker 1 - 6:01:23 PM
Hello. My name is Camille, press C a M I L L E P R E S S. I am a Murray resident and I strongly support this project. I appreciate the social media updates by Murray city on their Facebook and Twitter accounts. It is so important to upgrade roadways and intersections as traffic continues to increase for both driver and pedestrian safety, especially along 4,500 South between state street and 700 East and section nine of the environmental study. If possible, I would like to see preventative measures taken for the potential of introducing or spreading invasive weed species. But I understand if that's not possible, thank you for your time. And for allowing me to submit a comment, have a nice evening.
Speaker 1 - 6:02:11 PM
Okay. Just a reminder. You can still call in to get into that queue for verbal public comments. Again, we won't be responding formally to each of those, but those will be addressed in the final environmental document that will be published a couple of additional questions that we have. This is one that I think I'd love for Marcus to start with. And maybe Aaron, just to follow up with any additional information, just some concerns about whether or not construction will, you know, construction this project when it happens, would block access to businesses and residences. Is that something that we anticipate? Can you speak to that a little bit?
Speaker 5 - 6:02:49 PM
Yeah. So when we do these signal projects, it is so impressive how these contractors are able to limit to
Speaker 3 - 6:02:58 PM
The traveling public. It really, they do a great job and we're just now starting the process of developing the restrictions on the contractors and what they will and will not be able to do. And so we don't have all the answers on what the impacts will be. We would anticipate that all roadways would be open at all times. And we're planning on, I've been talking to Erin about this and collaborating with kind of our construction experts right now. We're, we're planning on keeping all accesses open at some time at all times, at least half of them open. And so it is just two accesses. Well, three accesses that will, by the time the project's done become two accesses that are being affected by this. And we are working with those property owners to develop those restrictions. And we'll be working with traffic and safety to develop those restrictions, but as far as limitations and impacts the 4,500 South and Outwood, we would expect those to be very limited by this project because so much of the work will occur in the shoulders.
Speaker 3 - 6:04:12 PM
Just to clarify real quick, he'd mentioned half of the accesses. I think what he meant was that we would, our intent is to keep it half widths of the access is open at all times, meaning that we don't intend blocking business owners from accessing their properties during this. And so we're going to be working with the contractors and our construction team to, to develop those specifications. And then we will work with the property owners as well. Again, there's three of them that are affected as far as access is go, and we'll be working with them directly and letting them know, okay, this is, this is what the plan is, and this is how we plan to move forward. So there'll be fully aware of that as well.
Speaker 1 - 6:04:58 PM
Great, thank you. We've got a couple of questions and actually the voicemail comments. I reminded me, we've heard a few questions about the environmental study as part of this project and Taylor, I'm hoping there's a few things you can help to address for everybody who's joining us. Why wasn't environmental study conducted as part of a project like this
Speaker 3 - 6:05:21 PM
Environmental study is done on all, you got projects, anything larger than a maintenance project. We try to look at both the bills and human environment and see what sort of impacts might be might occur. This one was a state study, so it was a, it was a state funded projects. It's very similar to any other environmental study. It looks at the same factors, say everything from cultural impacts to invasive species, wildlife, to public involvement and input. That's one of the reasons we're here today is to make sure that we have this discussion with, with impacted people. So,
Speaker 1 - 6:06:08 PM
Okay. And in this case, Tyler, what was the outcome of the draft environmental study?
Speaker 3 - 6:06:14 PM
There is no significant impacts. There'll be long lasting for this area. The overall, this is very similar to many other projects we do throughout the Valley, and that we can anticipate some impacts to cultural resources. However, that is minimal considering the scope of the project.
Speaker 1 - 6:06:46 PM
Great. Thank you for that. It doesn't look like we have any additional voicemails in the queue just yet to play back into the meeting. I'll do another plug for anybody who's still on and would like to have their input heard publicly to please jump onto this phone number (855) 925-2801, enter code five, four one nine, then star. And then to record your comments, we will be tracking this. If we don't have any voicemails in you within the next 10 or so minutes, we will wrap things up at that time. If there's nothing else to be submitted formally, I do want to talk a little bit though about other ways you can provide feedback. So after this meeting, if you reviewed the materials again, talk with your neighbors or friends, have additional thoughts that you'd like to submit. We actually, we can take some comments in other ways, by [email protected], or you can actually mail comments, then you prefer, we have a comment form that's available under the supporting materials link on this page. You can download and print that, write a comment and send it to us. You can also contact our project team. If we are talking comment form, or actually just the materials, if you would like to request hard copies, we can do that for you as well. I'm going to ask that Tyler, speak a little bit to the comment period portion of this. It sounds like we may need to extend this slightly and I'll let Tyler address that.
Speaker 3 - 6:08:19 PM
Yes. So for environmental studies, we have state mandated time periods that we have to adhere to for comment periods, for most projects of this size. If they have federal funding, it's actually just a 10 day comment period. So it would be may 14. This being a state funded project, it ends up being a 30 day comment period. So this is something I should have caught early on. And when I was reviewing this, but so that we are actually going to be extending this comment period out into June, June 4th, in order to
Speaker 1 - 6:08:54 PM
Get the comments
Speaker 3 - 6:08:55 PM
From everybody, makes sure that everyone can be heard and that we were adhering to those state requires
Speaker 1 - 6:09:02 PM
Thank you for that, Tyler. We will make sure that we update all of our communications and official things posted on our website to reflect that change is the comment period open slightly longer to do more like Tyler mentioned, appreciate that clarification. Couple of other things kind of, as we go, like I mentioned, we are available for additional information or questions at any point throughout this process. If you do want to request any information you've seen here via hard copy, our team can do that and deliver anything you'd like to you. We know that this platform is a little bit different and while it's great for reaching a lot of folks, it can be a little bit of a challenge. You want to make sure we break down those barriers. You can contact our [email protected] Doesn't look like we have any additional voicemails just yet. We'll go ahead and put that screen back on in case anybody jumped on and wants to provide input that way. Couple of other questions, Marcus, I know you touched on this a little bit in the design, but the left turn lane. What is the standard for how far back those go?
Speaker 3 - 6:10:34 PM
Yeah, so right now with our current design speed, the standard is for them to go back 500 feet and we are currently refining that and seeing if there will be any location, specific adjustments for here for this location.
Speaker 1 - 6:10:51 PM
Perfect. Thank you.
Speaker 3 - 6:10:55 PM
And just to clarify real quick, that's on Redwood road, it would be fun hundred feet back on Redwood road, but the other two, I thought you were making a joke 4,500, excuse me. Yeah, 45. And I'm a little mixed up there, but that would be 4,500 South. Excuse me. Yes. Yeah. Sorry. Atwood R is the numbers I gave earlier. The northbound Atwood is extending the queue is 60 to 70 feet long, and then there's a a hundred foot taper in front of it.
Speaker 1 - 6:11:26 PM
Perfect. Thank you for that clarification. Appreciate it. Got it. Just a couple of questions. You know, we've talked at length just about the properties that we have been in contact with in terms of right away negotiation and, and the impacts that are happening there. I'm curious, Eric, if this is something you could speak to, if anyone curious about you that right away process, where they could find more information about that and how in general that typically works with an environmental document.
Speaker 3 - 6:12:04 PM
Yes. I believe we've attached to this meeting a copy of our brochure for right away acquisitions in general, the process is that we will estimate the value of the property by an appraisal with a couple of circumstance rule differences for minimal appraisals values. But in general, all of these will be appraised in the, and the appraisal will be outside of UDA, independent appraiser, excuse me. They will estimate the value before and after as well as any damages or items that have to be cured or fixed up on the property will be paid to the property owner, including the acquisition of the parliament land acquisitions. There'll be a, the, we will have a written offer made to the property owners and we will go through a time period in which we work with the property owner to try to resolve all the issues that we can. So hopefully that outlines the basic process of that.
Speaker 1 - 6:13:07 PM
Yeah. Thank you, Eric. I appreciate that. We have another question that came in and I think this is a clarification that we need to provide Marcus as this one will be for you from a design perspective. The question is, is there room for four lanes on outward? I think we need to touch on that and kind of what the, the graphic and the diagram shows. And you let me know if you want me to jump out to the, the bigger design deal.
Speaker 4 - 6:13:34 PM
So yeah, immediately at, yeah, maybe we switched to the other design view, but immediately at the intersection, there will be, it will be three lanes wide and, and so we'll have the through and right turn lane on the far, right. And then the left turn lane in the middle and then the receiving lane. And it's important for us. So perhaps the shoulder was confused for an additional lane. We keep that shoulder there so that it provides room for vehicles who are, that are turning so that they don't
Speaker 3 - 6:14:11 PM
Off track off the roadway.
Speaker 4 - 6:14:14 PM
So yeah, there's, there's three lanes
Speaker 3 - 6:14:17 PM
On, on Atwood.
Speaker 4 - 6:14:20 PM
Perhaps the question was about future for Atwood to the South,
Speaker 3 - 6:14:25 PM
Speaker 1 - 6:14:29 PM
Yeah, I think that could be a question, Chris.
Speaker 4 - 6:14:35 PM
So for the South Atwood varies in width and it varies between the sex segments on, from vine to 48th. And likewise from buying the Atwood or excuse me from 48, that would there
Speaker 5 - 6:14:50 PM
Again, this is not a capacity project. The city is not from our perspective, not looking at it in capacity because of this project, the wits vary from 33 feet to give or take 40 to 45 feet that is not room in our opinion for a four-lane road in general, any improvements the city will make in the future. Again, I'll point to the Murray transportation We are primarily as a city looking in the next decade or two about adding a sidewalk and pedestrian safety down the road where it's lacking. But again, and there's opportunity to comment on that. That's not in our immediate plan, particularly not in the next five to 10 years, but the widths there aren't there any further South, particularly in the section between 48th and 45th on Atwood to, to add any additional lanes or capacity.
Speaker 1 - 6:15:55 PM
Thank you, Chris. I appreciate that. And thanks brackets for the input.
Speaker 3 - 6:16:01 PM
Speaker 1 - 6:16:01 PM
We don't have any additional voicemail comments in the queue right now. I want to get full a couple more minutes to have that opportunity to be able to jump on and leave a verbal comment. Looks like we're caught up in our chat box. QA also, please let us know if there's anything about the people through the draft so far Again, we'll be extending our comment period out to June 4th. We'll get some updated information out about that After that comment period is completed and Tyler's team reviews, everything like I mentioned before, any formal comments that we receive, like the voicemail we received tonight, or those that have come to SBA, email or mail, those will be reviewed and responded to, and those responses will be published in the final environmental document that we'll have available on this public hearing site, as well as our project site for the public, to be able to access anything Question for Erin. We talked a little bit about this being a state study, and Tyler touched on that, but Aaron can use describe a little bit about how the funding was prioritized and allocated for this project, where the funding,
Speaker 3 - 6:17:21 PM
Yeah, originally it was just a signal project and that's really what it is. But then there were some components that, that increased the price quite a bit, and that is combining the two driveways on the North. And then also adding some extra room for a right turn lane or a left turn lane, depending on how you want to look at it on the South Lake. And so there was some signal money identified. It did warrant that there was substantial additional money that was needed. And so you put it on its priority list in it. You don't have a way of identifying a lot of projects around the region, around the state and then a prioritizes them. And this happened to be one that they, they prioritize very high. And so it received additional funding, state funding was added to at signal money as state funded, and there was additional state money added to it so that we could actually make the improvements that we're showing today. And so that's, that's kind of how it came to be.
Speaker 1 - 6:18:26 PM
Perfect. Thank you for that. Okay. Just checking through everything to make sure we don't have anything new coming in. That's been yet.
Speaker 1 - 6:18:43 PM
I think if we don't see any new voicemail, I mean by six 20, I will wrap things up again. It's not the only opportunity to provide feedback and comments or to the materials that we thought today. This entire meeting and everything shared is being recorded will be available at the hearing site that you're on right now, doing this as well as you, that YouTube channel for future viewing, please share that with neighbors or friends as appropriate, we'll be accepting public comment all the way through June 4th. And we'll update that information on our website as we go. Is there anything else our presenters would like to add as part of the information today or anything you'd like to incorporate before we sign off?
Speaker 3 - 6:19:37 PM
One thing I would say is that, and this has been mentioned briefly, but on 4,500 South, I think everyone around that road would like vehicles to go slower. I think there is a lot of consensus around that and I'm hopeful that this helps influence that it's not something that can be consistently predicted, but, but I'm hopeful that it helps vehicles go slower. Just side note.
Speaker 1 - 6:20:09 PM
I appreciate that market then I'm, I'm wondering if you don't mind. I know we talked about kind of those Spacey numbers just to kind of hit that home again, some of the data that we have that we're trying to address here in terms of crashes. Can you talk about that for a minute?
Speaker 3 - 6:20:28 PM
Yeah. So when we look I'll, I guess I'll save the bigger numbers and work to the smaller numbers. So the data that's been analyzed recently is over the last 10 years, and as far as vehicles go, the traffic study
Speaker 4 - 6:20:47 PM
Identified that 32 crashes over the last 10 years may have been mitigated or avoided as a result of a signal being present. And that we could expect some kind of similar performance going forward. I believe that was a 92. It crashes in this, at this location that 32 of them may have been prevented by a signal. And then with the study that focused on pedestrians, there were eight crashes that involve pedestrians four of which were severe often when, when crashes involve pedestrians there, we see a greater distribution of severe crashes when, when they involve a pedestrian for, for widely apparent reasons, but, and of those four, one of them was a fatality. So, and again, any time there's crash data like that, it comes into the region traffic engineers office, and, and they are always looking for ways to mitigate these problems. And that's, what's brought them back to this location many times to try to find improvements.
Speaker 1 - 6:22:02 PM
Thank you, Marcus. That's helpful. NAC kind of goes back to that community benefit. I think that we're all trying to reach between the department and the city and really focusing on the intersection for everybody using it, drivers, pedestrians, those who live nearby or travel through MPS city areas top priority. So thank you for that information. There looks like we're still good. We were all caught up. I did want to mention something that Macy on our team put a link to that Marine transportation plan that Chris was talking about into the chat for those who are attending the public meeting. So that link is there. If you'd like to learn more information about future transportation plans and improvements within the city, you can click on that link there. Thanks for doing that easy, helpful information. You can also put that into the supporting documentation on our site too.
Speaker 1 - 6:22:58 PM
So we are just past six 20 about 65. We're going to go ahead and wrap things up. Now we really appreciate everybody's participation and appreciate our panelists for helping us out today to answer these questions, information to the community. Thank you to those folks that have joined us live. And I brought these questions and comments where attention, like I mentioned, we will be going through all of these, responding to them formally as part of the environmental process. And we'll keep the comment period open until June 4th. Thank you so much. If you need to contact us between now and then please contact us by phone or email phone number (385) 787-7182 and email at 4,500 Atwood. Thanks everybody. Bye.